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need help on howard Zinns a people's history of the U.s

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need help on howard Zinns a people's history of the U.s

does anyone know why Zinn thinks that laws calling for equal treatment of blacks and whites were meaningless in practice and what other reforms would have had to accompany such lawas for the laws to be meaningful in zinn's eyes its in chapter 9 of a peoples history of the u.s. I reallly need help I can't figure out this question and i've read the whole chapter please help

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I have no idea who this person is, but I'll do some research for you and see what comes up.

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Okay. I have good news and bad news for you here.

The good news is that I found a complete web version of the book.

The bad news is that it's long and I'm gonna have to at least skim it. Someone should really have made a summary for it, but no. So I'll get back with you after I read it.

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"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," say Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It

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do you go to kennesaw mtn hs?
cos we have to read that, too!!! :D

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Morristown high school, we read that too.

anyone who wants to know the reason so many high schools read this book:
1) howard zinn is a genious
2) your teacher probably was at the AP confrence

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Howard Zinn is a professed radical socialist. He hates America. His book is not objective in the least; he does not even try to hide his disdain for white patriarchal America. Dude, he's in league with Noam Chomsky! Look these guys up and say that they're stable.

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I love his work, i think he accuratly shows the possibilities of a darker side of American History. If he is correct or not, his work needs to be analysed as a different perspective than what we learned in elemantary school.

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That's all well and good, but I feel that public schools are overwhelmingly institutions of liberal indoctrination. We just had the Day of Silence, celebrating gay pride. We aren't allowed to say 'Merry Christmas' or call a Christmas tree a Christmas tree, but the Kwanzaa menorah, symbol of a black pride holiday that nobody practices, is prominently displayed in the school commons. An English teacher advertised her election bid at school so openly as to hand out tee-shirts, stickers, bumper stickers, you name it. Her affiliation: democrat.

The last thing we need is a one-sided viewpoint of American history from somebody to the political left of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. Maybe if his viewpoints were counteracted by an equally conservative text, I would consider reading his work, but when I open his 'history' to a section on modern day politics and he bashes the current President and calls his election a farce, he loses this audience member.

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I dislike Zinn for the vary same reason. While in school it is important for us to get an unbiased education. By recieving an unbiased education it gives us the ability to formulate our own ideas without a preconcieved notion from an authoritative figure that may sway our opinions because of the way they portray the information. To make it short the resources that we learn from should be unbiased. You have to remember though it's not Zinns fault, it is the school systems for electing his works to be part of the cirriculum

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thats where ur wrong tho. we need biased opinions! the fact that you realize his writing is of a different opinion and is influenced by his ideals is a victory in itself. People need to realize that ALL of history is biased in one way or another. THERE IS NO WAY TO POSSIBLY DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED ON ANY GIVEN DAY IN HISTORY. Every time someone tells a story out of history their oppinion some how influences what they say. keep that in mind and read zinn

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I think its good because we all need to see a different viewpoint on America...how everything in our history isn't perfect or right.

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